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		<title>By: chriggy</title>
		<link>http://chriggy.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/rant-livenation-excessive-fees-and-false-advertisement/#comment-418</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 03:53:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UPDATE: My wife&#039;s cousin has filed a class action lawsuit in NJ. I may just get tickets for the Depeche Mode concert and do the same in VA.

http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200907/1246487551.html
http://www.ticketnews.com/Live-Nation-is-sued-over-fees-and-No-Fee-Wednesdays-at-PNC-Bank-Arts-Center-in-New-Jersey709213?utm_source=ticker
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/freehold_concertgoer_sues_live.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UPDATE: My wife&#8217;s cousin has filed a class action lawsuit in NJ. I may just get tickets for the Depeche Mode concert and do the same in VA.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200907/1246487551.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.free-press-release.com/news/200907/1246487551.html</a><br />
<a href="http://www.ticketnews.com/Live-Nation-is-sued-over-fees-and-No-Fee-Wednesdays-at-PNC-Bank-Arts-Center-in-New-Jersey709213?utm_source=ticker" rel="nofollow">http://www.ticketnews.com/Live-Nation-is-sued-over-fees-and-No-Fee-Wednesdays-at-PNC-Bank-Arts-Center-in-New-Jersey709213?utm_source=ticker</a><br />
<a href="http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/freehold_concertgoer_sues_live.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2009/07/freehold_concertgoer_sues_live.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: chriggy</title>
		<link>http://chriggy.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/rant-livenation-excessive-fees-and-false-advertisement/#comment-368</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chriggy:
&quot;Ticketmaster/LiveNation is also being sued in Canada under anti-scalping laws.

Many are to blame for this. The Ticket sellers, the venues, the bands and the fans. The Ticket sellers add the service fee. The parking/facility fees go to the venue. Maybe 10 years ago, the venues needed TicketMaster, but in this day and age, there&#039;s absolutely no ... Read Morereason a venue should not be able to manage it&#039;s own ticket sales over the internet. The bands(or their promoters) choose the venues, but ultimately, that&#039;s still on the band&#039;s head. I can go see some perfectly good shows at WolfTrap. Granted, there&#039;s still a service fee, but it&#039;s less. And lastly, the fans are to blame for actually paying these exorbitant fees.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chriggy:<br />
&#8220;Ticketmaster/LiveNation is also being sued in Canada under anti-scalping laws.</p>
<p>Many are to blame for this. The Ticket sellers, the venues, the bands and the fans. The Ticket sellers add the service fee. The parking/facility fees go to the venue. Maybe 10 years ago, the venues needed TicketMaster, but in this day and age, there&#8217;s absolutely no &#8230; Read Morereason a venue should not be able to manage it&#8217;s own ticket sales over the internet. The bands(or their promoters) choose the venues, but ultimately, that&#8217;s still on the band&#8217;s head. I can go see some perfectly good shows at WolfTrap. Granted, there&#8217;s still a service fee, but it&#8217;s less. And lastly, the fans are to blame for actually paying these exorbitant fees.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chriggy</title>
		<link>http://chriggy.wordpress.com/2009/06/04/rant-livenation-excessive-fees-and-false-advertisement/#comment-367</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian:
&quot;I think there&#039;s an antitrust investigation pending on that merger.

@Greg- the only way for that effort to continue was for others to begin conducting business the same way: refusing to play venues that only sold tickets through TicketMaster. PJ got essentially no support in that effort, and in that climate, I&#039;d have probably also thrown up my ... Read Morehands and said, &quot;Fine, fuck it if no one else wants to step up.&quot; No one band was ever going to beat TM, but I give them credit for trying to get the ball rolling. The fact that no one else was willing to turn it into a snowball rolling downhill isn&#039;t on them as far as I&#039;m concerned.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian:<br />
&#8220;I think there&#8217;s an antitrust investigation pending on that merger.</p>
<p>@Greg- the only way for that effort to continue was for others to begin conducting business the same way: refusing to play venues that only sold tickets through TicketMaster. PJ got essentially no support in that effort, and in that climate, I&#8217;d have probably also thrown up my &#8230; Read Morehands and said, &#8220;Fine, fuck it if no one else wants to step up.&#8221; No one band was ever going to beat TM, but I give them credit for trying to get the ball rolling. The fact that no one else was willing to turn it into a snowball rolling downhill isn&#8217;t on them as far as I&#8217;m concerned.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chriggy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg:
&quot;@Ian: In short, yes. And my logic is infallible and stuff. :)

Seriously though, had that effort continued we might not be paying the extortion ticket rates we&#039;re paying today, is all I&#039;m saying. I remember them publicly admitting defeat and giving up, didn&#039;t know the other details about it.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:<br />
&#8220;@Ian: In short, yes. And my logic is infallible and stuff. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously though, had that effort continued we might not be paying the extortion ticket rates we&#8217;re paying today, is all I&#8217;m saying. I remember them publicly admitting defeat and giving up, didn&#8217;t know the other details about it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chriggy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren:
&quot;someone has to pay for the CEO&#039;s yachts and private jets.&quot;</description>
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&#8220;someone has to pay for the CEO&#8217;s yachts and private jets.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chriggy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:02:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian:
&quot;So...we&#039;re blaming the only high profile people who were willing to get off their asses and do ANYTHING, rather than all the people who sat back and watched (while continuing to book TicketMaster shows and purchase TicketMaster tickets)?

The only way to beat TicketMaster would have been to hit them where it hurts, and take money out of their ... Read Morebottom line; Pearl Jam proposed and toured on a new model that did just that, by leaving TicketMaster out of the equation, but no one else signed on for fear of pissing off the giant that is TicketMaster. Everyone else being chickenshit is Pearl Jam&#039;s fault?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian:<br />
&#8220;So&#8230;we&#8217;re blaming the only high profile people who were willing to get off their asses and do ANYTHING, rather than all the people who sat back and watched (while continuing to book TicketMaster shows and purchase TicketMaster tickets)?</p>
<p>The only way to beat TicketMaster would have been to hit them where it hurts, and take money out of their &#8230; Read Morebottom line; Pearl Jam proposed and toured on a new model that did just that, by leaving TicketMaster out of the equation, but no one else signed on for fear of pissing off the giant that is TicketMaster. Everyone else being chickenshit is Pearl Jam&#8217;s fault?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chriggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>chriggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chriggy:
&quot;I think they did just merge. Now I don&#039;t mind a reasonable service charge, but 54%?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chriggy:<br />
&#8220;I think they did just merge. Now I don&#8217;t mind a reasonable service charge, but 54%?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chriggy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 22:01:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lauren:
&quot;didnt livenation and ticketmaster just merge?&quot;</description>
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&#8220;didnt livenation and ticketmaster just merge?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chriggy</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:59:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg: 
&quot;Blame Pearl Jam. Remember they were going to fight Ticketmaster in the early 90s? Even made an appearance before Congress and everything. And just went the ball started rolling, they.... admitted defeat, declared that Ticketmaster is too big to beat, and gave up.

Thus, 15 years later, astronomical service charges on concert tickets. The funny thing is, I think at the time Pearl Jam did all that, the service charge per ticket was something like $2 or $3.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg:<br />
&#8220;Blame Pearl Jam. Remember they were going to fight Ticketmaster in the early 90s? Even made an appearance before Congress and everything. And just went the ball started rolling, they&#8230;. admitted defeat, declared that Ticketmaster is too big to beat, and gave up.</p>
<p>Thus, 15 years later, astronomical service charges on concert tickets. The funny thing is, I think at the time Pearl Jam did all that, the service charge per ticket was something like $2 or $3.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: chriggy</title>
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		<dc:creator>chriggy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 21:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Val:
&quot;I am just as frustruated as you. I love that they, and Ticketmaster, charge parking per ticket. If only everybody did show up in separate vehicles maybe that charge would go away. I tried to get tickets for a show this summer and somehow within seconds they were sold out...only to be sold at Tickets Now ( a ticketmaster owned company) for &quot;market value&quot; instead of face value. What a scam! I remember paying $15 for shows - good shows at good venues. What the hell happened?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Val:<br />
&#8220;I am just as frustruated as you. I love that they, and Ticketmaster, charge parking per ticket. If only everybody did show up in separate vehicles maybe that charge would go away. I tried to get tickets for a show this summer and somehow within seconds they were sold out&#8230;only to be sold at Tickets Now ( a ticketmaster owned company) for &#8220;market value&#8221; instead of face value. What a scam! I remember paying $15 for shows &#8211; good shows at good venues. What the hell happened?&#8221;</p>
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